I was wondering: what made you check CodeCanyon/ThemeForest daily?

I am sure that a lot of us find ourselves checking CodeCanyon or ThemeForest every single day. Some of us went there to track sales and see how much money they can spend this month (lol), some for the forum energy (which now is closed), others just to see what was new on the marketplace and to purchase some product for the new project they are building.

Recently, I’ve been thinking about that daily. What actually made me log in again and again? Was it the total earnings this month (visible on the top right on CodeCanyon/ThemeForest admin bar), sales count for a specific product, the community discussions, product launches, or something else?

And more importantly: what would make WPBay that kind of place for you now? What would make you want to stop by here every day, even if you’re not uploading or buying something at the moment?

I’d really like to hear your thoughts. The more we understand what kept people coming back to Envato, the better we can shape WPBay into a community that has that same energy but with a future focus!

Thanks for your time on this!

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In my case, I think that what made me check CodeCanyon daily was the total earnings this month from the top right admin bar, which is visible each time, just by a simple page visit also on the front end of CC (no need to check back end for this info).
The simplicity of this operation made me stick to it and perform it daily.

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@CodeRevolution

So myself personally I am a buyer (yes I am also a designer) but predominately I always bought from Envato. I never got around to ever selling my own stuff on that marketplace :wink:

I will ad some comments tomorrow when it is daylight LOL

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Looking forward for your thoughts

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Messages and sales, in the past I used to look at visits and analytics, but it’s pointless now…

When Envato was still Envato, there was this unique feeling of accomplishment when creating an app—not just financial, but something deeper, almost soulful. I believe this is what WPbay should be about: focusing on the author’s passion and rewarding it.

I remember winning a competition back in the day—the prize was $500 and two badges. It was such a big deal for me.

These little things make a huge difference.

The “Hall of Fame” page would also be a great idea. Even the Elite Author package was a big deal from a soul perspective, even if its financial value was modest.

We already have a model that worked—and it will work again. Why? Because it offers quality and security in a world flooded with low-value items from Elements, where users get so many subpar products that they end up valuing them at zero. The truth is, they have no real value. And now the entire industry is shifting toward that failing model, as we can clearly see with Envato.

Another thing I liked was the “fun fact” in the dashboard—some random info about sales and other little things. Again, these small touches make such a huge difference overall.

Looking back at what I wrote, I just realized Envato literally removed so many good features without any real reason. Why they removed the “fun fact” feature has no justification. I think they once said it was something about the server, but let’s be honest—that was just an excuse.

Another important thing: followers are now completely useless—they do nothing. In the past, Envato had a section on the front page where you could see the latest products released by your followers. This was huge, because now 90% or more of your clients have no idea when you release something new. Of course, they removed this too—and instead created AI-generated junk in Elements. They had the perfect model and completely messed it up.

The idea is that this marketplace should feel alive, organic, not commercial. If we do this, it will be a success. In the near future, it will replace Envato!
You might think I’m naive, but I’ve been doing this for almost 25 years. I feel it in my gut—it’s like a sixth sense. :slightly_smiling_face: Overall, with what I sold back in the old days, I think I moved more than 70,000 licenses and personally interacted with thousands of authors. Those experiences shaped certain insights inside me, and that’s why I feel so strongly about this.

I sold more with Adobe Flash than I ever did with WordPress or JavaScript. Even today, Flash would still be one of the best technologies—even without updates. It was an amazing tool that gave you the freedom to create unimaginable things. I can only imagine a Flash-based engine running on the GPU—holy shit, that would be insane.

I will return to this post when new ideas :slight_smile:

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One more thing that I can add is the “Envato Care Package”, which came in mail after we hit milestones with sales. I was really amazed when I got the 75,000$ milestone package from Australia with some Vegemite, a T-shirt, a pen, some sweets and stickers and a cup.
It was over 5 years ago, wow!

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Ok, so I have this on the list so far:

  1. “Hall of Fame” page
  2. Competitions with prize money + badges
  3. “Fun Fact” in the dashboard (I am not sure about this, as I have missed it, I don’t remember seeing it)
  4. Developers who are followed will have their products listed on the main landing page for their followers
  5. Packages coming in mail for developers who pass milestones
  6. Maybe also display the total earnings this month in the top menu bar

I think you shuld add total earnings overall as Envato has it in the footer not the header, is too cheasy in the header.

Overall all sugesstions are fantastic.

I will create a nice shader for the hall of fame to stand out, after you do the page let me know I will think of something.

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Ok, thank you! I have this so far, but a different page needs to be created for the Hall Of Fame: WPBay Top Sellers - WPBay

We need a dedicated page with something like this Wall Of Fame | Author Hub

There is time for this there is no rush, lets do it right, maybe Blue can help here.

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This was very neat and the entire idea of care packages is great.

I think there is a ‘loyalty’ component - many people are loyal by nature and value that over money. Something about the ‘soul’ like Tibi said.

I don’t think I would have ever left Envato if I felt valued there. What pushed me to leave was that they kept threatening me with closing my account and unpublishing my products. Which takes it from loyalty to ‘this is a cold business transaction’ very quickly.

The ‘Elite Author’ branding was very good too - it gives people an identity and point of pride.

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This was not always the case, before the Syrian CEO it was haven!

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I just added a new “Fun Fact” widget in the seller dashboard.

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That was fast.

I am used to Envato when adding a simple icon or input field takes one year :slight_smile:

Thank you!

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Added today also ‘My Followings’ menu to customer dashboard: Login - WPBay - needs some more work, but should be already functional.

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We need it on the front page as well for the logged-in authors, every item exposure matters especially when there will be thousands of plugins and authors/buyers.

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Noted. Will add this also, will be integrating it into current front page design.

Thank you! You are awesome!

Many apologies if I have not been here. Basically it’s just work! I have been busy with work, then if not that kids (well grown up adults) and then grandkids. I’m not complaining, but sorry for forum members on here.

@CodeRevolution your care package looked amazing LOL - I thought they could have least sent you Rolf Harris although now he is a liability :wink:

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