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I’m not part of the team here — I’m just trying to help. There’s no need to be aggressive.

Feel free to share your thoughts; I do the same. In the end, the WpBay staff will decide what they want to do, but I’m pretty sure they won’t add graphics footage here to it — it just doesn’t make sense.

A graphics category could work if it’s related to WordPress — perhaps Figma templates or similar tools — but not unrelated stock footage.

Creative Market is a mix of everything, with all kinds of items and categories thrown together. Why? Because they chose this path, it is probably good for the owners and a few contributors, but I doubt it for users when things are mixed like that.

WpBay is exactly what Envato was in its early days, back when Adobe Flash was still popular. At that time, I had over 30,000 sales in Flash components on Envato, so I’ve seen this environment evolve from day one, when selling a Flash component was something new and revolutionary. This is the way to do it: focus on WordPress and scripts, be closed and listen to your community, make good decisions that will help both marketplace and author, that’s what built Envato, and it’s still the most in-demand niche, especially in today’s AI-driven world where everyone thinks they can do software development.

WpBay was made by developers for developers. Stock footage has no place here. Maybe in the future, a separate marketplace could be created — like GraphicRiver or AudioJungle for audio — but mixing graphics into WpBay will just make things confusing for buyers.

Again, these are my thoughts, and I believe I can share them here in a respectful way without worrying about getting my account suspended or dealing with other nonsense. I suggest you do the same.

When it comes to authors, it takes real skill and experience to put a plugin together with attention to every last detail — not everyone can do that. Reviewers, too, must have a deep understanding of their craft.

Just a thought at Envato, I ventured in making a theme. After six months, I got a hard rejection, it felt like you are about to die, then I started over and another year of work, I got sixteen soft rejections until I got it approved…I will never do that again :slight_smile: This is why I am saying that for quality, you need experience; this applies in all fields, not just development.

Anyway, let’s make this place what we all need and start building cool shit!

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ThemeForest feedback forum topic you created
has a lot of valuable advice about verification etc and I hope you will inform us when anything new is introduced here.

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Good point, I save here the ideas mentioned in the Envato Forum topic, as it will be deleted fully soon…

FuseScript

6d

I don’t think the main problem is listing our work, as in the end, if someone wants to share what we made, they’ll buy it and share it for free on other platforms.

I created an account and, currently, I’d find it hard to proceed with the Verification.

What type of regulations and security details do you have in place in order to safely store our National ID and any other data-sensitive information?

I love the idea, and that’s a nice WooCommerce platform, but I’d work a bit on the regulations part.

If possible, look into some third-party companies that could do that for you, so you won’t need to process any sensitive data.

CodeRevolution

6d

At the moment, we are working on implementing strict compliance measures to align with GDPR and other relevant privacy regulations. All data, including any potential ID verification documents, will be stored securely, with restricted access only to authorized personnel.

Also yes, integrating with custom secure storage providers is a great thing to have, i noted to look into this.

I appreciate you bringing this up, and I agree, having the right security and regulatory measures in place is just as important as building the marketplace itself. Thank you.

FuseScript

6d

That’s really good to know!

The only reason I asked about this is that I want this new marketplace to work :slightly_smiling_face:

I’ll keep an eye on it, and maybe I’ll start adding some new stuff there as Codecanyon seems to go down.

CodeRevolution

6d

Looking forward to review and approve your work! :slight_smile:

charlie4282 Volunteer Community Moderator

6d

If you’re serious about scaling a marketplace to any meaningful size, the first step is to set aside the (honourable) emotional motivations for starting it and adopt a clear, realistic business perspective.

This is a highly reactive space, and as you grow, you will need to invest continually to maintain things.

That means being realistic about resources. Even smaller marketplaces have dedicated teams of category specialists handling narrow aspects of the business. Envato, had entire teams focused on individual functions. Based on your posts and site, it sounds like initially you intend to personally manage everything from reviews to dispute resolution. That’s simply not sustainable and will lead to problems.

Avoid trying to please everyone. For example, subscription-based offerings work for marketplaces that own the products. But if a buyer pays for a year and the creator stops maintaining the service, you’ll inherit that problem immediately. This is one of the main reasons Envato, despite their size and resources, avoided individual item ans supported subscriptions.

Above all, prioritise experienced, category-specific in-house legal expertise. A few generic T&Cs will not protect you, especially when you consider complexities like financial regulations, cross-border payments, and data privacy laws, to name a few. Partnering can be a viable option, but it demands significant time and budget.

These are just a few of the many critical considerations. I understand the desire to return control to creators, but if you want to avoid the same challenges that others face, emotion has to take a back seat to strategy and operational realism.

Good luck

CodeRevolution

5d

Thank you for these tips, I saved your message to the ideas list for WPBay, as it is valuable.
Appreciate your time writing this!

rayoflightt

5d

I agree with FuseScript about problem with verification.

What I first notice as problem on your marketplace is that there are no sales.

Your focus now is on authors and their priorities, you created forum for authors and that is very nice of you. But what is your strategy for marketing and increasing sales?

Honestly I think new code marketplace would get customers and sales only if and when Themeforest and CodeCanyon are closed.

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I want to add a feature that CodeCanyon used to have, which I found really useful. There was a section where followers could see the latest products from the authors they follow.

I don’t remember exactly how it was implemented, but the idea is that if someone follows you, they’re more likely to purchase your new products. If they are visually notified about new releases, it could help increase sales significantly.

As for emotions, we need them with moderation and realism in these artificial words. Envato in the boom era was all about emotions :slight_smile:

I remember coding my first product man, I was so excited I forgot to breathe, this is what we need, and so far WPBay is exactly what we need. I could not ask for more to be honest. From now on it can only get better!

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Can you give more details about this, about how this could be integrated? I guess it would be a separate page where the latest items would be listed which the followed sellers published. But how was this integrated? Was it a button on the profile page of users, or maybe in the user dashboard, by adding a new menu entry there.

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Basically, your followers will have a section where they can see your latest work since their last approval. This used to be really cool — it was on the front page, where a logged-in author could see the latest product from each author they followed (or something like that). I don’t remember all the details, but I do remember that followers could easily see my latest released plugin.

Now, on Envato, the following system is pure nonsense — it doesn’t do anything but initially this is how it worked, the main idea is that the user can see their followers’ latest plugin, this is very useful when the time comes and there are enough users and authors.

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Indeed, sounds like a cool feature and gives more sense to the current ‘Follow’ system which is also semi-implemented on WPBay. Noted, I will work on this in September.

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